We have what, 38, 39 states now. With some sort of adult use or medical program. We saw this as an opportunity to create equity in a new industry, but also repair some of those harms from the war on drugs where communities were overpoliced, the disparities exist in arrest rates, but, uh, between black and whites, but not in the rates that the plant was being used.

I was doing some sleuthing on your Twitter, and I feel like all the things you were saying on Twitter, all the things I'm thinking like, why can't my mom come out here and help me with this crazy person that is next to me right now? Yeah. Like what is going on? They are like, he has like just found his voice and he's just, Like, just wants to do everything he wants to do, which I wanna empower so much, but then I gotta pump the brakes on him sometimes, and that's when he just, it's my un unpolished ego that I have to face every day.

Yeah. Yeah. Pumping the brakes is never, never goes well for me. It's like it's an explosion, but mm-hmm. Exactly. And then you're having a, to chat with you and hear your story and what you've been up to and. The changes that you're seeing in the industry. So welcome to the Mama Chico podcast. Courtney. Thank you.

Yeah. I wanna start by hearing your story, because what I'm finding in this podcast is every interview that I do, it's always a very unique story that brings someone to cannabis. And growing up in SoCal where you missed the window of it becoming legal, you've been on the East coast longer than it's been legal out there.

Like, where did cannabis start with you in your, in your personal story? Younger, older? How did you find cannabis? So, yeah. Um, I'm happy to be here. I'm so glad that you reached out. Um, love, love talking to women in cannabis, especially moms. Like, I think we have such a unique perspective, so thank you for having me.

Um, you know, growing up in SoCal, I do feel like. There's a cannabis culture there that exists that mm-hmm. You can kind of, you know, people are wearing Bob Molly's shirts and, you know, so you kind of, you're very comfortable with the plant, the smell, I mean, whether or not you're using it or not, you know, I've always kind of been around it and, um, have felt like, It wasn't that big of a deal to me.

Mm-hmm. In college, you experiment a little bit here and there, um, which I did. And then when I came to DC I was working on the hill and, um, the interesting. Fact about working on the Hill is that we don't get drug tested like other federal employees. I mean, technically we are, but we're almost like independent contractors because each office has their own, they have their own budget mm-hmm.

And their own staffing resources. I've never worked in a place where I wasn't able to use cannabis. And so, um, DC has a medical program here and so. I said, oh, you know what, I'll become a medical patient. I've been struggling with some insomnia and some other things. And so it was really easy for me to get a card.

Um, so that was kind of like my introduction into more dispensary like. Yeah, as a, like, more than just a casual consumer, like, you know, becoming a patient in DC was pretty interesting when I first moved here. DC has like such a great presence and an excitement. I mean, you're in the, mm-hmm. One of the most powerful places in the country, the nation's capital you're working in, in very powerful institution.

You're excited about everything. But that kind of glory fades a little bit. The longer that you're here and working in the Senate was just becoming so challenging. I mean, we hear about it all the time. Yeah. How long it takes to pass bills, um, how partisan things have become and. I was just really, after, you know, six or seven years, I was like, I gotta, what am I gonna do next in the DC area?

Maryland and Virginia. Very close. And there was all this buzz about Maryland having, you know, DC's not a state. So folks have kind of been like, I don't know when dcs have program, but Maryland had a medical program, and Prince George's County has always been one of the wealthiest counties for African Americans.

And at the time there were very few African Americans that had received licenses in the state of Maryland. And so the state had kind of tried to. Rectify that with some grants providing for education. And I kind of heard about this and one of my friends, Kevin Ford had received a grant and started his company uplift.

And I said, oh, you know, I'll just, I'll just go to these, you know, cause they were trying to encourage people to apply for a license. And I was like, what the hell? Yeah, I'll go. Network, figure out, you know, what's going on. I started going to these networking meetings and learning about the license process and meeting folks that had shifted into this space that had similar backgrounds, policy attorneys.

Mm-hmm. Um, they were consulted and I'm like, maybe this is something that can get me off the hill. Yeah. And allow me to be a part of an emerging industry. Mm-hmm. And so I essentially was connected with marijuana matters through LinkedIn because I didn't wanna move anywhere. I had just bought a house here in DC and I was using search terms like cannabis, green Leaf, all of those, yeah.

Yeah. In DC. And I found Marijuana Matters, and I messaged Kadeja and we had coffee and she's like, There's gonna be such a, a prevalence for mm-hmm. A need for this type. Someone with your type of skillset in this industry. Yeah. And each consultant firm's gonna have a cannabis arm and she eventually was able to hire me about a year later.

Mm-hmm. To use some policy work for the organization. So it sounds like you just have always wanted to make a difference. You've always wanted to be out there, make change in the world, make a difference for the better. If you could tell us, Maybe not like a fourth grade level, but in a very basic level because a lot of us are consuming cannabis and we don't know all the behind the scenes stuff that you guys are working towards at marijuana matters and the things that you're trying to make equal and put work towards.

A lot of us might not know that as we're new moms looking into cannabis cuz, or even moms that have been using for a while. I think the education piece is so important to know. Like, not just like I'm going to dispensary and consuming, but also like coming from the dare generation and the war on drugs and all that that is going on.

Can you break us down like what your organization stands for and like the work that you are doing? Our organization, um, exists to repair the harms from the run drugs. We see cannabis legalization as something that is happening. We have what, 38, 39 states now. With some sort of adult use or medical program.

Mm-hmm. We saw this as an opportunity to create equity in a new industry, but also repair some of those harms from the war on drugs where communities were overpoliced, the disparities exist in arrest rates, but, uh, between black and whites, but not in the rates that the plant was being used. Mm-hmm. And so, While we believe in freeing the plant, we also believe in freeing some individuals and providing some opportunities for those folks and other people in the communities that look like me to participate and show up in a way that they haven't been able to, uh, free from any type of criminalization.

Mm-hmm. And so those are the types of policies that we try to. Create along with decriminalization, legalization of cannabis. So we look at it as like three buckets, economic opportunities. So those are like the licenses. Mm-hmm. And then also ancillary opportunities. So like a company like Roland Bouquet who makes papers, you're providing something that's similar to, I mean, that is used with cannabis, but you're not actually touching the plant.

Mm-hmm. Then we also try to incorporate some policies that will support community reinvestments. So some of those tax dollars are even just shifting around money in a state or federal budget to support organizations that, um, ha work in communities that it doesn't have anything to do with cannabis necessarily.

Mm-hmm. But they have been providing services in communities that have been impacted disproportionately by the war on drugs. We wanna be able. To use cannabis legalization as a way to support them. Mm-hmm. And then the third bucket is restorative justice, which is expungement record sealing, um, providing workforce development services for, um, the re-entry population.

Yeah. And helping them to kind of decide if cannabis is something they wanna pursue further or if they just want general business skills. Yeah. Um, so those are the ways that we try to create. Policies, um, related to legalization, in addition to legalization that we hope will create equity in the industry.

Yeah. What would you say would surprise most people about how unequal things are? Like, what are, what are some statistics or maybe some situations that would surprise mom that just goes into a dispensary is buying things and leaving? What are some of those things that we would be like, there's like no way.

I think people don't. People may know about the rates of arrests. Like, you know, a lot of us know that there are more black and brown people mm-hmm. Incarcerated than there are other races in this country. But, um, I think that, um, what folks may be surprised by are some of the collateral consequences that come with an arrest or a record.

Like in some states, you know, Once you become a felon, you're no longer able to vote. Um, once you have a record, it's hard for you to get a driver's license. In some states, um, public housing, some states, I mean, uh, some people were not allowed to receive public housing or SNAP benefits or even federal um, aid.

To go to college. Um, and so some of these policies are stayed in federal and have made waves and changes over the past decades. Um, but there are also people, um, like that are, that were caught up in like what's called the three strikes. Mm-hmm. Or like a mandatory sentencing where it may not have even been.

A violent crime, but all of a sudden you have a three, this is your third strike and it, it, maybe it's cannabis and now you have a life center and now you're, yeah. Yeah. You know, and so those are some of the things that we hope to highlight and really just want people to be more conscious about the way that they're consuming and the, the impact that, um, their dollars have on this industry.

Is that how we can make a difference just as like a mom going in? Like what are things that we can do that can help support that or make a difference or help empower what you're doing? So we actually just launched a national social equity certification. It hasn't been, we haven't given out any certifications yet, but, um, it's a way to professionalize the industry mm-hmm.

And also help consumers. When they, um, go to dispensaries or when they're looking for products to know which of these products have been, are owned and operated by individuals that were impacted by the were on drugs. Yeah. And so now that I've been in this space, when I go places, like I recently went to New York and they have I think seven or eight dispensaries that are all owned by.

Justice impacted individuals, but the products inside, not necessarily. So the first thing I asked was like, which of these products are women and minority owned? And so we hope that the certification will help to kind of make it, you know, similar to certified organic or fair trade label, the consumer will be able to recognize, okay, this is a justice impacted, or you know, someone that lived in an area that was overpoliced.

Um, so. Being able to support those businesses or even help those owners, um, get more, uh, visibility, um, get into larger supply chain so that their products can be on some of the shelves that people visit frequently. And then also, you know, supporting organizations. Financially that do this type of work. I think that's something that moms can do.

I don't know. When people talk to their kids about it, that's always hard. Cause I have an eight year old too, and it's like, when do I, when do I, because he came home with a no smoking. This is what color your lungs are when you're smoked. Grant, it's tobacco. Mm-hmm. But he, in his mind, any kind of smoke is bad.

So what are your thoughts on telling kids. I have no idea. Yeah. But there is a resource that I just downloaded. Um, miss Kindness is someone that is out in California who I really, um Oh, awesome. Admire. And she just posted something on LinkedIn about talking to your kids about cannabis. I downloaded it, um, it's $5, so I downloaded it and I plan on reading it.

And hoping to, and you know, incorporate that. You know, my daughter's too. So I have some time, but I have so many friends who are like, Hey, you know, I'm going out to the garage. Yeah. I know my daughter's best spots to be like weirdly secretive. Yeah. And some odd spots. Yeah. You know, I wanna say something, but children are also impressionable.

Yeah. But I also think that, I have cousins that are, you know, 17 to 20 and they're like, oh yeah, they live in states that are legal mm-hmm. For adults. And they're like, oh yeah. The, you know, the place where the Green Cross is or something like that. Yeah. So some of them that are a little bit older are kind of growing up.

Yeah. Um, a little bit differently than we are knowing that these dispensaries are like safe places to shop at. Yeah. Um, And not as much as a stigma is on the plant as it was when we were growing up. Mm-hmm. I think that is also still ingrained in us, um, in a way that makes it hard to talk to kids about it, but you also want to make sure that you're being safe, you know?

Mm-hmm. Some of the books that I've been reading about children just like developing, it's like some of their. Brains hopefully develop until they're in their twenties. And so it's like, yeah, yeah, this is okay for me cuz I'm, you know, this age, but mm-hmm I don't really want you to try this until whenever.

So those are conversations that everyone has. Um, and I don't know, I don't know what the answer is. I know, yeah. We think that, Secrecy is probably not the answer. I, I agree. I had, um, Betty, she's a bud tender in Maryland and she was talking about how we cannot be so secretive because your kids are gonna wanna know when you're being like, what are you hiding?

What's over there? Mm-hmm. And the second she was open, she was three kids. Second, she was open. They didn't care anymore. They didn't care. They just know that there's that little red sticker and that's a mommy product. And. Not for them until they're older and they're like, whatever ma. Like sounds good to you.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hopefully with the way Maryland is going and recreation will be legal in July, maybe that's gonna kind of set that California stage for the kids growing up where it's just comfortable and they know it's like a medicine for adults and cuz no one's like abusing marijuana and being super loud with that.

I feel like the loudest people right now are the people like, this is how I use it for my health. And this is why the stigma should go down. I feel like those are the loudest voices in the room right now. And I think that that's just helping everything gear up to like have a safe place that kids grow up.

Like comfortable and knowing, but knowing not to use it as well. And I don't think it'll be as fun to abuse either too, if you can even abuse it. I mean, no one's, no one's died from a marijuana overdose. So like we all hear about Yeah, and like pretty low rates of. Addiction and other things like that.

Mm-hmm. Especially compared to like pharmaceuticals, tobacco, alcohol. Yep. Exactly. How has your use with cannabis changed over the years? Like becoming a parent? Cause I'm sure growing up Cali got the Cali vibe, Bob Marley t-shirt, like cannabis is there. You smell it when you walk by. And now that you're a mom and expecting another one.

How did you use cannabis while you had like a young toddler? Like how has your use changed over the years? Yeah. Um, I've always been kind of like a casual consumer. Mm-hmm. Like, I really, really enjoy microdosing. Yeah. I don't like being too high unless I'm home and getting ready to go to sleep, and that's what I am intending on doing.

Yeah. So I've always kind of, you know, a gummy here and there. Um, I've really gotten into kind of like the. The newer, uh, methods of consumption because they're just so much more convenient Yes. Than having to roll up or put something in the bowl. Mm-hmm. You're dealing with the smoke, the smell, the envi, like where am I when I'm smoking?

And so I, I kind of got into some of these kind of like water soluble, the, the beverages. Um, The gummies, I guess. I guess I'm a gummy girl. I, I like gummies. Yeah. I like animals. Yeah. Yeah. I, I just started using a vape pen more cause Okay. Walking around with the pipe, like you said. Yeah. You gotta grind it up, then you gotta put in there and then you gotta dump it out and then put a little bit more, if you need more.

And I've been doing a vape pen. Um, I'm doing the placebo one. Have you heard of that one? It's like formulated for women specifically. There's a lot of CBD in it. Cause I don't like being very high too. Okay. I feel like if it's, if it's gonna be like that, it's at the end of the night where Yeah. I know I can go crawl to my bed when I know I'm gonna start falling asleep.

Right, right. Yeah. I'm the same. I have not. I did go to, I went to MJ unpack though, and I saw a brand that has. Space for two cartridges. So you could put one with t h c one with C b D or just different, um, strains. Oh, that's cool. That's interesting. Yeah, no, it, it was developed by a gynecologist. She was an ob gyn for 17 years and then opened up a dispensary.

And her and her business partner formulated a pen specifically for women that men also happened to love. But yeah, it's, it's really nice cuz it doesn't, it's really balanced. It doesn't make you go instantly to the moon in your head. So, okay. Mentioned you have battled insomnia. Mm-hmm. Have you treated your insomnia with cannabis?

I have. I have. Really. I realized that, you know, a lot of people struggled with CBDs not working, and what I realized is that, The dosage for C B D for most folks. You know, I always preference that everybody is different. Mm-hmm. But most of us are not taking enough milligrams to actually get the. Effects of cb, like similar to tht, you can have a five to 10 milligram gummy and you're, you may feel something, you're good to go.

Yeah. C, B, d, you know, you could really do 25, something like that. Mm-hmm. And so I started with some tinctures for some CBD B tinctures during the day and also at night though. That was really helpful. There's also a product here that this shirt cannabis makes that's like a honey that I really like. They have a CBD T hc or just T hc.

Um, and I'd like to put that in some tea before bed. And then I kind of got into these CBD gummies called from, not Pot. I don't know if you've heard them or not, but mm-hmm. Those are pretty relaxing for me. So yeah, they work. So it's all CBD for you right now? Mm-hmm. Awesome. Awesome. I love that because, I know in my mind, I was always like, I need the THC to feel it, to know it's working.

Uhhuh, yeah. C, b, d, just by itself or with all the other good cbd, cbn, C, B, G, all the good stuff with it. Mm-hmm. Is just enough to treat insomnia. That's amazing. Yeah. It's really working for me. And I also have to say more integrative methods, like mm-hmm. Sometimes we look to cannabis for a solution to everything.

Yes. But also stretching before bed. Going to bed at a decent an hour, not being all geeked up on caffeine during the day. And I'm like, oh, I can't sleep. Yeah. You know? Yeah. Um, so trying cannabis is a tool and your toolbox of mm-hmm. Integrative methods that you should be incorporating to live a healthier lifestyle.

Yeah. What other, what other things do you do at night? I know a lot of his moms are wired or maybe anxious or struggle with insomnia. What are their tools in your toolbox? Are you putting in, you have your cannabis tea, what else do you do and you're going to bed toolbox? Well, the first thing was getting my daughter on a very nice sleep schedule.

Oh gosh. Don't even tell me about that. I'm struggling so hard with that. I, I know. Gosh. To sleep the whole night. That's the biggest tool in the toolbox is getting your child to go to sleep. Mm-hmm. At a decent hour. Mm-hmm. So that you can then focus completely on yourself. Um, so that was really important to me.

But I started doing like some stretching right before bed, which is really helpful and just like kind of, sometimes I even do it in the bed because I'm just like, no, I don't really feel like being, you know, I just like, I'm so ready to see. Yeah. I also using eye mask almost every night that kind of helps me to, um, Like drown out all of the noise.

Um, it's really dark. Even if my husband wants to watch tv, like me, just having an eye mask on makes me feel like I'm not even really there. Um, I like the, the Knot Pot gummies at night or Brown Girl Jane or something. Um, and yeah, maybe a little, uh, lavender lotion or something. I even have, um, my friend told me about these, this melatonin spray that she puts on her kids pillows.

I was like, that could work for me too. Oh, oh, noted. Yeah. Yeah. Myself and everyone else, everybody in the house gets two sprays before mom's gotta sleep. You guys can all knock out now. Yes. That's a good idea. I, I like the magnesium. I'll do magnesium lotion or an Epson salt bath. Something like that. That's what I, I do, I do like the sleep na mask too.

It just drowns out everything for me. I can still hear it, but like once it's dark, like I can just, yeah. Fall asleep as soon as I lay down. Yeah. What are, what are your favorite resources that you give to other moms that are looking to learn more about the plant? To learn more about what you are doing?

With marijuana matters and policy and supporting anything from like, how to use cannabis to going deeper, what resources do you mostly hand out? Yeah. Um, I really, we have a lot of resources on our website. Um, for the past couple of years we've had a staff writer, um, she recently had to leave us, so we're pretty sad about that.

Mm-hmm. But we've covered, you know, topics from Men's Health. Breast cancer sickle cell to just like being a conscious consumer, but some of our favorite brands are. Um, and we try to highlight, you know, a lot of black and brown folks that, and women that are in this space. I also really like Canna Curious Magazine.

It's geared towards women. I absolutely love all of the articles that they write. And their products. Um, I really like, uh, women grow. Mm-hmm. They have some pretty good content. Yeah. Um, and then also, uh, oh my gosh, preneur, we, we participated in a okay scholarship with them and we, um, had people apply to go through their program because even if you're not, you know, Interested in growing, just understanding the properties of mm-hmm.

The plant and what it could do for you and understanding the endocannabinoid system. Yeah. And, and why it worked so well. I mean, we were on a, we hosted a panel last night with doctors for cannabis regulation to close out Women's Health Month and Oh, nice. We had three. It was, I was like, I wasn't moderating, but I did some intros and I was like on there taking notes.

It was amazing. Yeah. And they were talking about, uh, PMs, perimenopausal pregnancy, C B D and endometriosis. Mm-hmm. And one of the doctors said that cannabis was made for women. I mean, the plant is female. It, it goes, it directly supports our endocannabinoid system. Mm-hmm. And especially, um, some of like our sexual health organs, um, the way that it really, uh, responds to cannabis.

Mm-hmm. It's just, it's phenomenal. So really excited about the more research that could be done, um, for this plant. But honestly, most of my friends just call me up and say, Hey, what should I, yeah, what should I take? And like, I don't mind telling people what works for me. Mm-hmm. Cannabis is kind of, it's like prescription drugs and exercise, like everybody has to try.

You have to be willing to try it. Some people will say, oh, I had one gummy mm-hmm. And I was so sick. I'm never doing that again. Yeah. Yeah. That's the common one I hear if you're not willing mm-hmm. To, to try responsibly, you'll never know if you could find that sweet spot for yourself. Yep, yep. It's not just whatever the budtender says.

That's true. Yeah, that's true. I mean, they always have great insight and great input, but you're never gonna know until you take something journal about it. Mm-hmm. Learn yourself, learn what you respond to. And then it's all about that toolbox too. What else are you adding to that? Because it's, that's what I love about cannabis.

It makes you take a look at like your whole health. Mm-hmm. And it's not just, oh, this is my bandaid to get through everything. It's how do I look at what everything else that I'm doing that can support that too, because, Yes. Um, everything works together and I love that cannabis is made for women. I love that because I, I know our uterus has, um, the second most cannabis receptors mm-hmm.

And contaminated receptors in our body besides our brain. So yeah, that makes total sense. Mm-hmm. I love that. Yeah. I'm like, someone needs to, yeah. That, that's gotta be on a shirt or something. I, I was just thinking the same thing. Let's put that on a shirt. You had mentioned in one of your interviews that I listened about the veteran space, um, and supporting veterans.

What kind of work are you doing for veterans? Um, um, essentially I think that the way that we are going to help reeducate people, One of the best ways to do that is through the health and wellness space. Mm-hmm. And the veteran population is a great group of folks to focus on, not just because we owe them that.

Mm-hmm. Um, but also because there are a lot of, um, medical. Issues that they, that, that population's dealing with, PTs, d, tbi and also, um, physical disabilities that have been proven to be improved with cannabis. Um, you know, C B D, THC or all of the other properties mm-hmm. Um, that haven't even yet to be, you know, scratching the surface on, on what those could do for us.

And so, It's not necessarily a strategy, but it's really just something that we, you know, it's a population of individuals that we think could help kind of move the needle forward. Mm-hmm. And a lot of these folks are asking the va, you know, they're, they're receiving veterans benefits, most of 'em going to the VA hospital.

Mm-hmm. Um, they're also, um, over-prescribed, uh, narcotics, which. Can lead to all other types of side effects, including addiction. And they're basically begging their doctors, I want to try cannabis. You know? Yeah. Um, and so supporting, um, them with research and education and helping to advocate on Capitol Hill mm-hmm.

You know, supporting, um, members that are introducing bills that could help, you know, help the VA get to where it needs to be. Yes. Um, I mean, there are even some folks that are afraid that they may lose their VA benefits if they test positive. So there are, you know, a lot of organizations that we, um, work with to support.

Mm-hmm. Um, and just try to make sure that, you know, collaboration of our efforts. Like everything that we do, we try to find the right partners that. Care about, mm-hmm. Cannabis, but also care about the war on drugs, you know? Mm-hmm. So we always try to bring that, um, piece into it because I think it's important for the work that we're doing to keep that into perspective, that we're also on the backs of folks that, that kept this culture alive for us to even be having these conversations.

Yeah. Yeah. That have oftentimes been left behind. Mm-hmm. So like how we continue to. Roll, you know, repair those mm-hmm. Pieces of this puzzle. Yeah. Yeah. In another interview, I heard you say that there's so much opportunity with cannabis, like where do you see all this headed? What kind of progress has the organization that you're with made that you've seen that's been substantial?

And then like, where is this opportunity headed? Like where, what excites you about the future of cannabis and what you're doing? Oh, that is a hard question because it is such a fast growing mm-hmm. Industry, but we are losing good people because of some of the, the challenges with the, um, policy gaps between state and federal government.

Um, you know, not having access to safe banking. Yeah. Two 80 e. Um, not, not being removed from, uh, the Controlled Substances Act. And so some people are, you know, especially in just kinda like the advocacy or, um, social impact space are just like getting let go. I mean, similar to what's happening in some of the tech jobs.

Um, there's just been massive layoffs this year, which has been kind of hard, but then you still see even with all. That you've got Minnesota that just, um, legalized Maryland July 1st, which is my birthday. Mm-hmm. Is going to, I mean, I, I can't believe I'm gonna be able to just, I mean, I've been in this for so long and haven't been able to buy weed really?

I mean, I, without my medical card. Yeah. So I'm really hopeful for. The next generation of folks that are gonna come up and see that there are career opportunities in this space that haven't been, um, whose, whose views of cannabis have not been skewed by, um, the way that we were brought up. Yeah. Yeah. I think ancillary space and the culture and, and kind of lifestyle is really interesting.

I'm also really excited about, The medical advancements in technology. I think that with more healthcare professionals that are administering medical marijuana cards that are wanting to learn more about this plan and are kind of pushing back on some of the research and saying, Hey, we need these Yeah.

Clinical trials. Um, we need more than just surveys about women that are using cbd mm-hmm. While they're pregnant. Yep. So I think that. So many folks that are, that are coming up are going to have more of an opportunity to really just utilize this as a, as a legal industry. You know, they're not gonna be held back by a lot of the barriers that some of us have been.

And even with like having conversations with their parents, you know, like, yeah, mom, I'm going to work. You know, for blunts and more or whatever, and they'll be like, oh, that's awesome. You know, you got benefits, um, a salary, you know, you're doing your taxes. You know, I'm just really excited about having a regular industry.

Yeah. You know, I haven't really thought about that, but how cool for someone that's like, been touched by cannabis and is just like, I wanna help other people and I wanna work in the industry. And not be afraid to tell people they're working in the industry. Mm-hmm. Like actually getting to live out that passion.

Because you think of all the people for the past 10, 20, 30, whatever years that couldn't be loud, that couldn't be like, Hey, this really helps. Like you should try this. And to be able to be confident in your role and knowing like you can be, you can, you know? Mm-hmm. That's just such a cool thought. Thank you so much for chatting with me, sharing your experience, sharing some things that I think a lot of people might not be.

Too aware of and just kind of breaking it down for us, stuff that's going on. I didn't really learn about too much of that until I was really starting to get into cannabis and like mm-hmm. Seeing the effects and learning myself and exploring other dispensaries and all that. And, um, yeah. I just really appreciate you breaking it down in that way and kind of giving us a little, uh, insight on what you guys are doing and what you guys are impacting.

And I appreciate everything that you're doing. No, of course. And again, thank you for, um, having this space, holding this space for moms. Um, you know, we are ready to talk about our jobs, to talk about this plant, um, and help, you know, support the next generation as so many of us do, just in, just by being a mom.

Um, you know, we always feel we have a responsibility to help others. Yep. Including our children. So, yep. Thank you for doing this. Thank you so much for being here. I hope you enjoyed the conversation as much as I had. Do me a favor, pass this on to three more mamas that need to hear this information or that just need an uplifting, positive conversation to listen to in their day.

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